pOrutharr boomi Azhvar! konjum porunga annan list oda varuvaru?Quote:
Originally Posted by hamid
pOrutharr boomi Azhvar! konjum porunga annan list oda varuvaru?Quote:
Originally Posted by hamid
எம்.ஜி.ஆருக்கு வக்காலத்து வாங்கினத்துக்கு எனக்கு வேணும் ..எனக்கு வேணும் :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Raajjaa
உம்மால என்ன நடந்துச்சு ? சும்மா இருந்த 4 பேரை சொறிஞ்சு விட்டு எம்.ஜி.ஆரை பத்தி அவங்க பேசும்படி வச்சாச்சு ..என்ன எம்.ஜி.ஆர் ரசிகரோ ?ஹைய்யோ :)
NanbargaLe, namakkuL sandai vEndaam! Nagaichuvai thnundu raasaaraamukku thevaiyaana bathiladi tharappattuvittathu! Naam nammudaiya aarogiyamaana vivaathathai thodaruvom
Agree with Sakala
But allow me to join Joe :lol:
Now continue
கடந்த சில நாட்களாக ரஜினியை பற்றி கமல் ரசிகர்களும், கமலை பற்றி ரஜினி ரசிகர்களும் மரியாதையோடும் உயர்வாகவும் விவாதித்து வருவது யாருக்கோ பொறுக்கவில்லை. பெரியோர்கள் ஆவன செய்து இந்த ஆரோக்யமான விவாதங்கள் தொடர உதவுங்கள்..
have always wondered abt Rajini's contribution to a given film, besides his trademark charisma-pulling-crowds ?Quote:
Originally Posted by venkkiram
MGR am told was part of the music/song composition, choice of lyrics, screenplay etc etc - of course, his care/concern in keeping himself in shape is legendary!
the last factor probably helped in bringing in the 'pathhu gundars adithhy veezhthum believability' factor!
Rajini does appear to have played roles in dialog (punches!) choice, but keeping in shape etc etc ?? he just manages NOT to look overweight but definitely not a Stallone who can beat the sh*t out of even 2 guys!
Me too, but nobody really knows what goes behinds the scenes.Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
என்ன கமல், இந்த மைய்யம் பசங்க நம்மள பத்தி நல்லபடியா பேசுறாங்களா
நல்லாத்தான் பேசுறாங்க ஆனா சமயத்துல எனக்கே கண்ண கட்டுது!
http://www.top10cinema.com/dataimage.../16065-5-2.jpg
Rajini of 80's didn't possibly get involved in the selection of technicians (e.g. who'll be music director for his next movie 'huh, let the producer decide'). Even KH was possibly MD-agnostic during 70's-80's and let the producer-director choose whoever was to their liking.
However, Rajini of 90's and later possibly had a major interest in it. (e.g. enakku Rahman thAn vENum) So is possibly KH of 90's and later (e.g. enakku Rahman konjam kashtam) :-)
ithukku neengaLe caption ezhuthikkunga!
http://www.top10cinema.com/dataimage.../16065-5-3.jpg
andha kaalatthula enga palaya thaatthaa orutthar ipditthaan shoe poduvaar...
ரஜினி: நானும் படிச்சிட்டுதான் வரேன்! ஆனா அப்பப்போ கிசு கிசு திரியில நம்மள இழுத்து அசிங்கப்பட வைக்கலன்னா இவனுங்களுக்கு தூக்கமே வராது போல!
இருவரும் ஒரே நேரத்தில்: என்ன பண்ணலாம் இவங்கள! :thinking:
Why there is no info on what kamal spoke?
day before yesterday I mentioned one thing and saying it again. Kamal is the first Indian hero who does not have any apparent weakness in Drama, Comedy, Action and Musical(dance in specific). So that is why Kamal gives a look of magician sometimes in movie.
I wish I have that quality.Quote:
Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
1. Kamal 80s ordinary movies - QED as far as I am concerned. Not just Sattam. See Vvazhve maayam at the end of title song. Siridevi kovichukinu poga sollO maadipadi OramA vandhu oru "mixed emotion" look vuduvaaru. ArtificalO artificial. Kamal in 80s ordinary movies - don't start me on it.anban will kill me.
2. Rajini is the only actor among all mass heroes and mass hero wannabes in Tamil film continuum. I don't like 6 to 60 but look at how he handled ordinary moments there. Grouch can write more. As NT would have done it. Call him a NT clone yeah if you want. Nothing to be ashamed about that.
3. Kamal the writer/director - greater talent than Kamal the actor. But yeah the star Kamal was required to make sure the director Kamal had a market. To that extent, I see the 80s as investment.
4. He is a bloody good actor. Trumps most other competitors on that aspect despite acting being his second string in the bow.
4. I rejeet stunt and dance talent so yeah, P-R's passionate arguments for 80s Kamal along those lines is rejetted.
5. Rajini after Thalabadhi is thoroughly wasted
5. It is long term memory loss to evaluate Rajini based on past 20 years. Just think Jeeva@30 years vs Rajini*30 years. No contest, even if you ignore Rajini's output post his 30 years of age. Heck, idhellaam naan En explicitA sollikittrukkEn?
7. Frabhu deva dance - sori sirangu soridhal, pant zip kazhatti moodal, sattai thiRandhu moodal, discrete movements - bhava bayaharam. Thank God I don't have much respect for dance as an art. If he is the standard against which Kamal is poor dancer, lacks grace etc, you guys should take it easy. You don't want to call Kamal good according to those standards.
Idhaiyellaam, pala muRai solliyAchu. IpdiyE recycle paNNikittirunga...
people might not have understood what he said.Quote:
Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
I certainly don't agree this. Kamal is a great creator but Kamal is a great actor too. Look at all his sincere performances and how would you rate him in Indian cinema and as well as world cinema and tell me how would you rate him there. And also look at all his creations and how would you rate them in indian and world cinema. I still think Kamal as an actor has edge over Kamal as creator.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Moreover Dance, Action and Comedy is also part of the art. You may reject but it should be considered while considering the talent. Because it certainly entertains the audience.
http://cinema.dinamalar.com/tamil-ne...Kollywood/.htmQuote:
Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Agreed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Agree ,. But wouldn't call him a NT clone, but he does possess NT's mannerisms, no doubt! If one analyser RK's Clones, or Rajni wannabe the list is endless, the gang leader is none other than Joseph Vijay Chandrasekar!Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Agree with the exception of Chiti V2!Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
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Originally Posted by joe
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ஆடியோ வெயீட்டிற்கு பிறகு பேசிய கமல்ஹாசன், முதற்கண் என் அய்யனுக்கு வணக்கம். என்னை சிவாஜியின் ஒரு பிள்ளையாக பாவித்தற்கு நன்றி. நான் இங்கு வந்தது ஒரு கடமை. அவர் இறந்த பிறகும் பிரபு மற்றும் ராம்குமார் என்னை அவர்களது *சகோதரனாக பார்க்கிறார்கள். இங்கு சொன்னார்கள் விக்ரம் முதல் அடி நன்றாக வைத்திருக்கிறார் என்று, நான் சொல்கிறேன், முதல்அடியே அவர் அருவியில் வைத்திருக்கிறார்.அதில் அன்பு கொட்டுகிறது. மேலும் இந்த படத்தில் வெற்றியின் சாயல் தெரிகிறது. அதாவது மினிமம் கேரண்டி இந்த படம். இப்போதும் கர்ணன் வெற்றியை பார்த்தால் புரியும் அது மினிமன் கேரண்டி படம். இங்கு ரொம்ப முக்கியமானது ரஜினி வந்தது. ரொம்ப நியாமான ஆளு. இது எங்கள் வீட்டு விழா, எங்கள் இருவரது வீட்டின்* செங்கலில் சிவாஜி, பாலசந்தர், ஏ.வி.எம். பெயர் இருக்கிறது. வாழ்க்கையில் எங்களுக்கு அவர்கள் கிடைத்த பாக்கியம். நான் சிவாஜிக்கு சவால் விட்ட படம் தான் தேவர் மகன். இந்த விழாவில் கலந்து கொண்டது தலை குனிந்து, முகம் சுளித்து கலந்து கொண்டதற்காக அல்ல, மனசு நிறைய வாழ்த்த வந்திருக்கோம். விக்ரமுக்கு *நிறைய பொறுப்பு இருக்கு. எப்போதும் பயம் கூடாது. தினம் கற்று கொண்டே இரு. நாங்கள் அப்படித்தான் கற்று கொண்டோம். நாங்கள் சிவாஜியிடம் கற்று கொண்டது நிறைய. மேலும் ஒன்று சொல்கிறேன். கலைஞர் எழுதிய வசனம், அவர் சொன்னார், இவர் சொன்னார் என்று நம்பி தடுமாற வேண்டாம். உன் பகுத்தறிவை கொண்டு செயல்படு என்று சொல்லி வாழ்த்துகிறேன். மேலும் இந்த படத்தில் உழைத்த அத்தனை பேருக்கும் என் வாழ்த்துக்கள் என்றார்.
உங்களுக்குப் பிடிக்கல. ஆனால் ஊர் ரசிக்குதுங்க.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
I totally agree on this. The whole world enjoys it. Even in hollywood action triumphs over drama in box-office. Imposing one's wish on others is totally subjective thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by venkkiram
There is no wonder you write well because you are such a big fan of Cinema(not any specific genre but all genres)Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
Plum simply said he did not like KH dance/stunt. He did not generalise that ?Quote:
Originally Posted by tamizharasan
Its really staggering to see people actualy *invent* something to put Rajini below MGR. MGR and screenplay? Did he write a Roshomon? Songs, well TFM has always been blessed (pre-00s) with phenomenal music talent. Lyrics, seriously? Compare with what KD wrote for Sivaji films. And stunts? As Grouch put it, its not circus, its cinema for God's sakes. You need to *act*. He had two stock expressions, one for songs and one for stunts.Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
Faramukku puriyudhu. TA, Venkkiramku puriyala. idhu epdi irukku?Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
+1. MGR's history as a cinema artist is being rewritten desperately. And also this thing about MGR songs being great - never understood that. As you say, what KD wrote for NT stands way above any other in the history of tamil lyrics. Soaked in Life...as against phoney aRivurais from vAdhyAr.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerd
BTW, recently saw thyaagam. In the climax, Thengai gets into a fight with villains an dsays this before involving in adidhadi
(He plays kovil battacharyaar in the movie)
"Enna iyeru kambai edukkaRAnnu pArkaRELA. idhai ellAM enakku yAru solli koduthA theriyumA? (pregnant pause, I am thinking a praise dialogue for NT's character will come here). "VAdhYAr. enga vAdhyAr" with a clear indication of who he is referring to.
Now, we have been discussing about Sivaji vs MGR in magnanimity an dinnocence stakes. Some MGR abhimaanis ELanMA asked Sivajikku vAila veral vechA kadikka theriyAdhA. Sure he wouldnt be that innocent. But surely, this is unprecedented. Praise of arch rival by an actor whom he had given a chance despite knowing that he is part of rival camp. And allowing that to remain in the final cut of the movie.
Contrast this with the man who chided vaali for writing Andavan Kattalai is bigger than Arasa kattalai.
It is clear who was putting up a show of magnanimity and who was truly magnanimous
ராஜபார்வை, மூன்றாம் பிறை, சாகர சங்கமம், சுவாதி முத்யம், நாயகன், புஷ்பக், அபூர்வ சகோதர்கள் - இதெல்லாம் எண்பதுகள் தாம். பரம் எல்லாத்துயுமே ஆமாம் போடுவாருங்க! (பெரும்பாலும் நீங்க சொல்றதை) அதையும் நாங்க கணக்குல எடுத்துக்குவோம்!Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
venkki :roll:. enna badhiladi kodukkum avasaramA? Do you seriously believe I would have called those movies ordinary?
80s ordinary movies = 80sla vandha ordinary movies
80s ordinary movies != 80sla vandhadhellAm ordinary movies
Isnt that obvious? Evne if it isnt, what makes you believe I would call Saagara Sangamam an ordinary movie?
For them it is ordinary and not for us. Avangalukku puriyuthu namakku puriyala.Quote:
Originally Posted by venkkiram
Sorry, I have really forgotten these films, In fact, Salangai Oli , Raaja Parvai, Moondram pirai were all my fav movies. The reason for me to agree with some of plums posts is that , plum seems rational rather than emotional. Avalavu thaan.Quote:
Originally Posted by venkkiram
Ithuku thaan naa Tamil Film section la limit ah post panrathu, ellarum suddenly emotional agiduranga , sorry! Bye
TA - refer above again.
I dont undersand.
I made that "faramukku puriyudhu" in context of "dance, stunt rejetted" point
What makes you apply that for this point? kaNNa moodikittu respond paNDrIngaLA?
For me saagara sangamam is ordinary because it mainly revolves around dance for which i am not big fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Neengalumu enna thappa purinchu kondathu :|Quote:
Originally Posted by tamizharasan
yOv ennayyA idhai elLAm kooda nAn explain paNNanumA?
80s ordinary movies of Kamal = 80sla vandha Kamalin ordinary movies. This is so obviously not "80sla vandha kamal movie ellAm ordinary".
enna koduma hubbers idhu?
Never. I was just kidding. moreover there is no harm if you don't consider them good movies. Personal taste.Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
ok :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tamizharasan