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irir123,
aanaanappatta SPB udhaaseenapadutthina podhey, IR kandukkavey illa - indha sundakkaa Srinivas solradha ellaam, andha aalu kandukkava poraaru ?! - ))
I did not see the telecast!
But, namba Ilayarajavai, namba SPB, deliberate aa miss panna maattar!:(
He regards Shri.Ilayaraja very high!
Posting this, as an extention to this -> http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthrea...l=1#post976393
Since that is Rahman thread, I am posting here
ராஜா ஆஸ்கார் விருதைப்பத்தி பேசினாக்கூட கோபம் வருதுன்னா என்ன சொல்றது? ஆஸ்கர் என்ன ரஹ்மானோட ஹோல்சேல் ப்ராபர்டியா அல்லது அதை நடத்துறது தான் அவரா?!? அப்படியே அதைப்பத்தி ராஜா பேசக்கூடாதுன்னா எதுக்கு சில விளக்கெண்ணைகள் அதைப்பத்தி கேள்வி கேக்கணும், வாய மூடிட்டு சும்மா இருக்கவேண்டியது தானே?!? உனக்கு புரியலைன்னா விட்ரேன், நீ தலைல தூக்கி வெச்சிகிட்டு ஆடியே ஆகணும்னு ராஜா உன்கிட்ட வந்து கேட்டாரா?!?
ஒரு உயரிய தேசிய விருதை ராஜாவுக்கும் இன்னொரு இசையமைப்பாளருக்கும் ஒரே நேரத்தில் சேர்த்து கொடுப்பதே தவறு. அட்லீஸ்ட் ராஜாவுக்கு மிக தாமதமாக தருகிறோம் என மத்திய அரசு சொல்லியிருக்கலாம். சரி ஒழியட்டும், மத்திய அரசு எப்பத்தான் இந்தமாதிரி விஷயங்களில் (இல்லாத)மூளையை உபயோகப்படுத்திருக்கு!! சரி, விடுவோம். இந்த விஷயத்துக்காக பிரஸ்மீட் வெக்கணும்னு கேட்டதே பிரஸ் ஆட்கள் தான். சரி ராஜாவும் ஒரு பிரஸ் மீட் வெச்சார். அப்பொ ஒரு அதிபுத்திசாலியும் கேள்வி கேட்கிறார், "சார், உங்களுக்கும் ரஹ்மானுக்கும் ஒரே நேரத்துல விருது தர்ரதைப்பத்தி என்ன சீல் பண்றீங்க?!" இந்த விளக்கெண்ணையை எந்த கொப்பறையில் தள்ள?!? ஆனா அதற்கும் ராஜா பொறுமையாகவே பதிலளிக்கிரார் "வொய் ஷுட் ஐ ஃபீல் ஃபார் ஹிம்?" இதிலும் அவர் கேள்விகேட்ட அந்த அடிமுட்டாளையும் சரி, ரஹ்மானையும் சரி, எந்த தாக்குதலான வார்த்தையும் சொல்லவில்லை. அவருக்காக நான் ஏன் ஃபீல் செய்யணும் என்று மட்டும் சொன்னார். அதோடு விட்டாரா?! ரஹ்மான் பற்றி நான் ஏற்கனவே அவருக்கு ஆஸ்கர் விருது பாராட்டு விழாவின்போது பேசியிருக்கிறேன் என்று அவர் ரஹ்மானை பாராட்டிய பேச்சை நினைவு கூர்ந்தார்.
இதே குமுதம் பகுதியில் இன்னொரு கேள்வி. "நீங்கள் ஏன் இந்த இரண்டு ராகங்களை பயன்படுத்தவேயில்லை" அதாவது இந்த 3.தேவி ராஜாவின் 4500 பாடல்களையும் கேட்டுட்டு வந்து இந்த கேள்வியை கேக்குது! ராஜாவுக்கு கோவம் வருமா வராதா? ஆனாலும், அந்த ராகத்தை பயன்படுத்தி அவர் போட்ட பாடல்களை சொல்கிறார்.
எக்ஸாக்ட்லி இதே கேள்வியை இன்னொருவர் மிகச்சரியாக கேட்கிறார் "நீங்கள் பயன் படுத்தாத ராகம் என்று ஏதேனும் உண்டா" இதற்கு ராஜா அமைதியாக பதில் சொல்கிறார்!
இன்னொரு ஜந்து கேட்கும் கேள்வியை பாருங்கள் "உங்களால் எலக்ட்ரானிக் கம்பியூட்டர் சவுண்டு தொழில்நுட்பம் எல்லாம் பயன்படுத்தி இசையமைத்து காட்ட முடியுமா?" :: "காட்ட முடியுமா" என க்கேட்டவனுக்கு எவ்வளவு கொழுப்பும் அறியாமையும் இருந்திருக்கவேண்டும்! அதான் ராஜா இந்தக்கேள்விக்கான பதிலில் காட்டு காட்டு என காட்டி இருப்பார் யாரு கிட்ட வந்து என்ன கேள்வி கேக்குற!
ஒரு ஈடு இணையற்ற மேதையை புரிந்துகொள்ளவில்லை என்றாலும் பரவாயில்லை. கேள்வி கேட்கிறேன் பேர்வழி என உளரிவைத்து அவரையும் அவரது ரசிகர்களையும் புண்படுத்தாமல் இருந்தாலே போதும்!
Ilayathalam
Hi all,
We are falling short of crew to handle the show and other music and web related activities.
If you are interested to work as a freelancer or full time professional with Ilayathalam, please contact us on ilayathalam@gmail.com
There are several areas from management to photography to Maestro's music score archiving projects etc which are going on. We need people in various different areas of expertise.
Thanks
- Ilayathalam
Wow!!!
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hi all,
we are falling short of crew to handle the show and other music and web related activities.
If you are interested to work as a freelancer or full time professional with ilayathalam, please contact us on ilayathalam@gmail.com
there are several areas from management to photography to maestro's music score archiving projects etc which are going on. We need people in various different areas of expertise.
Thanks
- ilayathalam
சகல.. கேள்விகள் ஆயிரம் வரும். அதில் முக்கியமாக தேர்ந்தெடுத்து (தேர்ந்தெடுப்பதை ராஜா செய்கிறாரா, இல்லை இதழ் ஆசிரியர்கள் செய்கிறார்களா எனக்குத் தெரியல ) பிரசுரிக்கிறார்கள். அதனால் முட்டாள் தனமாக கேள்விகளை கேட்காதீர்கள் என நீங்கள் ஆதங்கப்படுவதில் அர்த்தமில்லை என நினைக்கிறேன். முட்டாள்தனம் என்றால் அதற்கு பதில் சொல்லியிருக்க வேண்டாம், ராஜா அந்த கேள்வியையே நிராகரித்து நல்லதொரு கேள்வியை தேர்வு செய்து அதற்கு பதில் கொடுத்து பத்திரிகையில் பிரசுரிக்கச் சொல்லலாமே! நிற்க. இதை நல்லக் கேள்வி என்றோ கெட்ட கேள்வி என்றோ இனம் பிரித்து பார்க்க முடியவில்லை. ராஜா இந்த கேள்வி மூலம் அவரது கருத்தை பதிலாக சொல்ல முற்படுகிறார். அவ்வளவே.Quote:
Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
ஓ, அப்ப கேள்விகளுக்கு பயந்து ஒதுங்க சொல்றீங்களா?!? அதோடு, அவர், முட்டாள்தனமான கேள்விக்கு 'தக்க' பதில் சொன்னால்தானே அது கேள்வி கேட்டவருக்கு புரியும்?!? ஹியுமிலிடி ஹியுமிலிடி என சும்மாவே இருக்கணுமா?!? அப்படியே சும்மா இருந்தாலும், அதையும் பாத்துட்டு இந்த முட்டாள் உலகம் சும்மா இருக்குமா?? கேள்விகளை தவிர்க்கிறார் பாருங்க என ஒரு பிரசாரத்தை செய்துவிடமாட்டார்கள்??Quote:
Originally Posted by venkkiram
ராஜாவிடமும் கமலிடமும் கேட்கப்பட்ட சிலபல கேள்விகள் எதிரணியிடம் கேட்கப்படுவதேயில்லை. ஏன் இந்த ஓரவஞ்சனை?? அவங்க கிட்டயும் கேக்கவேண்டியதுதானே?!
அதுமட்டுமல்ல, சில கேள்விகள், கேட்ட விஷயம் சரிதான் ஆனால் கேட்ட முறை தான் அந்த கேள்வியையே தப்பாக காட்டுகிறது. அதை சரியாக கேட்க்கத்தெரியும் பக்குவம், ரசிகர்களுக்கு வ்ரவேண்டும். அதற்குத்தான், இரண்டு ஒரே மாதிரியான (ஒன்று தவறு, இன்னொன்று சரி) கேள்விகளையும் சுட்டிக்காட்டி இருக்கிறேன்
SKV - vaazhndhaalum yesuvaargal, thaazhndhaalum yesuvaargal - freeya vidunga
ithhanaikkum yenakku yedhu aachhariyamnaa, both Kamal and IR actually demostrate unbelievable levels of tolerance to such questions and the questioners!!
wrto Kamal, there have been multiple instances when ppl have deliberately attacked him personally than objectively criticizing his films.
in case of IR, its comedy mela comedy - onnu, kekkaravan ozhungaana kelvi kekkanum, illa thonina kelviya, sariyaa articulate pannanum - idhu oru pakkam irukka, IR appappa aanmeegam, philosophy nnu sagattu menikky digress pannuvaar!
idhellaam paakkum bodhu - adadaa avar interview kudukkaama music pottaa podhumnu niraya thadava yosikka vaippaar !
IMHO, fault lies with them too - why cant they have a decent, qualified PRO who can speak for them, instead of having to address every question themselves ??
regarding the questions IR is answering (kumudham or vikatan ?), we dont know who chooses those questions as Venkkiram says - even if those are chosen by the editors, IR still has the choice to reject those questions and go for the next in line! so IR chooses to answer those questions most likely coz, he wants to put an end to such nonsense and make sure noone else comes up with such inanity!
irir, i do't have any issues if someone highly dislikes and hates the kind of answers he gives. No issues. But tagging him as a jealous person ( :rotfl: to the core! ) worried about an other MD's talent is ROTFL of the decade, man!
Most of these fellows have no idea of what it is to be a natural artist. An artist for them is another human being with high intellect. And the benchmark for an artist is humility
These fellows are half baked, "wanna-be-cool-dudes" . Most of them. Doesn't mean that they are totally stupid. Just that they want to be someone else ..
I think the problem is when people with original and ideas different to the normal cliched trends come up they are not welcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Its amazing that people are so happy to listen to voices and opinions which are so cliched and seem humble that is perfectly prepared for media. They are just utterly boring, sterile views which doesnt shift them from their comfort zones or give new insights.
They expect raja to show all the cliched/boring characteristics of being humble, praise all, ignore oneself and all the marketable traits.
But raja is not the run-of-the mill human. How can you expect such a man to behave like you.
I for one have always enjoyed Raja's speeches and writings. He is very thoughtful and his speeches have given lots & lots of insight into his music making.His music is driven by spontainity and the same goes with his speeches and writings. He is the most spontaneous person, cannot hide himself even if he tries.
Past few years its a surprise and joy that he is opening up more.
He has to write more, he has to come out more and share his thoughts. To hell with people who want otherwise..
Its very important that he is doing all this. Not because it will be in his records for us to look back.
Just believe that there will be somebody who understands all this, Just like Raaja understood the greats before him.
And if all his works inspires another one to continue his legacy that would save us all...
Very true. there is not many who has expressed himself truly than him.Quote:
Originally Posted by balachidam
என்று முடிவுக்கு வரும் இந்த டுபுக்கு கேள்வி? அந்தாளும் விடாம இதே மாதிரி பதில தான் சொல்றார். இந்த வார ஆனந்த விகடனில் இருந்து, பாரதிராஜாவின் பேட்டி .
''பாரதிராஜா-வைரமுத்து-இளையராஜா மூவரும் இணைவது எப்போது?''
''எதுக்குச் சேரணும்? பிறக்கும்போதே ஒட்டியா பொறந்தோம்? மூணு பேருமே வெவ்வேறு பாதைகள்ல இருக்கோம். அவங்ககிட்ட போயி இந்தக் கேள்வியைக் கேளுங்க. அவங்க இணையத் தயார்னா நானும் தயார். உங்க விருப்பம் நிறைவேற வாழ்த்துகள்!''
nice one...
the first two stanzas are awesome after which it gets boring!
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Originally Posted by SoftSword
ஒரு சாமானியன் இந்த கவிதையை எழுதி இருந்தால் நிச்சயம் நான் ரசித்திருப்பேன். அவரிடம் பாட்டு எழுதுபவர்கள் இது போன்ற கவிதைகளை எழுதுவது அவ்வளவாக நன்றாக இல்லை. மிகவும் செயற்கையாக தெரிகிறது.
அதற்காக பழனிபாரதி ராஜா சாரை காக்கை பிடிக்கிறார் என்று சொல்லவில்லை.
தமிழ் நாட்டில் மட்டும் இப்படி புகழ் 'ஏந்திகள்' புலவர் அரசன் என்ற உறவைத் தக்க வைத்துக்கொண்டு இருக்கிறார்கள். இது, குறிப்பாக, அரசியல் மற்றும் சினிமாவில் தான் அதிகமாகக்காணப்படுகிறது! அரசன் 'பொற்கிழி' கொடுப்பான், படி அளப்பான் என்ற நம்பிக்கை இதற்கு முக்கிய காரணம். அடுத்து, இந்த சந்தடி சாக்கில் தன் பெயரையும் நாளும் பேர் தெரிந்து கொள்ளட்டுமே என்று ஒரு நப்பாசை!
"அடை மொழி மற்றும் பட்டங்கள் கொடுக்கும் கலாசாரம்" மற்றும் "தமிழ்நாட்டின் போஸ்டர் ஒட்டும் கலாச்சாரம்" என்ற தலைப்புகளில் டாக்டர் பட்டம் பெற பலரும் முயற்சி செய்யலாம். எங்கு பார்த்தாலும், ஒருத்தன் அடுத்தவனைக் காக்காய் பிடிக்க, ஒரு பட்டபெயர் கொடுக்கிறான், மற்றும் போஸ்டர் ஓட்டுகிறான். Flex-banner க்கு நம்பர் ஒண் வாடிக்கையாளர்கள் நம் தமிழ் நாட்டில் தான் இருக்கிறார்கள்! பிறப்பு முதல் இறப்பு வரை, வாழ்வில் அனைத்து நாட்களும் இன்று ப்ளெக்ஸ் போர்டு தயவில்தான் 'கொண்டாடப்' படுகின்றன. நட்பின் ஆழம் கூட இன்று ப்ளெக்ஸ் போர்டின் பட்ஜெட்டில் தான் அளக்கப்படுகிறது என்று பலர் நம்புகிறார்கள்!
பழநி பாரதியின் இந்தக்கவிதையை பொறுத்த வரை, வாரமலர் போன்ற பத்திரிகைகளில் பிரசுரத்துக்கு நிராகரிக்கப்படும் மிகச்சுமாரான அமச்சூர் கவிதை மாதிரி தான் இருக்கிறது.
வாலி, வைரமுத்து போன்றவர்கள் போட்ட பாதையில் இவரும் பயணிக்கிறார் போல!
yes, post pannaamale irunthirukkalaam, pretty ordinary one
Dear All,
The Poet Pazhani Bharathi Kavithai is just marvelous which had come from his heart. This is required to the entertainment industry , that still people are concerned, and in need of quality music. The last two lines made my goosebumps..
You are seeing God ... ( in Music)
We are seeing you..
Ture lines......... by the way , for long time i have to give reply to "Plum" who said the songs of NEPV are average, No it is not. It is indeed a mastercraft with amazing sounds and raaga's , the songs has all the ingredients of Love, anguish, appeal , request, outbreak , sensuous , in the form of opera music.
A treat of us ,, if somebody feels still it is not up to the expectation, then choose to hear the song after a gap of 6 months,, it will be good.
Regards
உன் ஆரோகணம்
மேகம்
உன் அவரோகணம்
மழை
நீயின்றி அமையாது உலகு
அழகான உவமைகள்.. தேர்ந்த சொற்கட்டுமானங்கள்! நல்ல கவிதை. எளிமையாகவும் அதே நேரத்தில் சுவையாகவும் இருக்கும் இந்தக் கவிதையைப் பாராட்டுங்கள்.
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நான் சொன்னால் என்னிடம் நிறைய பேர் சண்டைக்கு வருவார்கள்.சொல்லாமலும் இருக்க முடியவில்லை. ரெண்டு நாள் வெயிட் பண்ணி தான் இதை இங்கு போஸ்ட் பண்ணுகிறேன். ராஜா சாரிடம் மைக் கொடுக்காமல் இருப்பதே நல்லது. நீங்களே கேளுங்க அவரோட டிராக் எப்படியெல்லாம் போயிட்டு வருகிறதென்று.. அதிலும் அந்த "நான் ஸ்க்ரீன்" மேட்டர் ரொம்ப ஜாஸ்தி. சலிப்பை தருகிறது.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2P1_L5W42g
Naan Screen has to be understood in 'his' perspective, not the way we normally see how an egoistic person showcases his skill. The way he composes, he does not think what kind of music should be done for a film . When movies are shown , whatever emotion that comes to his mind , finds a relay to his music and it naturally comes representing the soul of the film .That way , he is the screen on which movies are shown and he is proud of tht .Quote:
Originally Posted by rajaramsgi
And no one has the courage to say Music is not 'Market ' in an audio launch - Any other composer, would have humbly smiled and accepted , not Raaja !! I bow down !
it's ok to feel salippu sometimes with Raja's matters! :)
Salippu is a real feeling just like emotions of Raja's music!
Yes... you are everything most of the times for some of us!:ty:
that's why I closed my eyes, meditated with
உறவெனும் புதிய வானில் பறந்ததே இதய மோகம்......
DIVINE, FRESH AND ROMANTIC are You in Your music!:musicsmile:
DIWALI- 2012 NAMASKARAM TO YOU, RAJA!
Vinatha.
Exactly, he doesn't score music to gain market. He conveys his emotions through music.Quote:
Originally Posted by MumbaiRamki
Surprised to see IR being so kind enough and encouraging younger buds like Devi Sri Prasad. Impressed very much in watching IR move with people of DSP caliber in music. Wish DSP gets some workshop from IR on musical process. Let the followers of Raja music get the opportunity of life time.
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Originally Posted by rajaramsgi
:) When Raja says "Naan Screen", he doesn't mean film won't happen without him (I assume that's the interpretation taken here). He means, he doesn't know any music, and the film goes through him (Or projects into him) turning into music. If the film is not projected into the frame, there is no cinema but screen is just a tool. Raja also sees himself as tool, that when possessed by appropriate emotions, outputs music. Hence no emotion, there is no film, no music, no Raja. He is not being egotistical here but humble or self-depreciating. He has repeated this point in other forums with different analogies. He just happened to use "screen" analogy here.
When I see this video, I feel bad for him. I see him as a true artist, a talent wasted most of the time and caught in a industry, that 99% of time, bereft of artistic value, integrity and respect for craft. The fixation with making a film/music huge hit is nauseating. The bug is with the audience too. We are never satisfied with saying "Great film" or "Great music" or "Great acting". We follow it up with it comments like, it will be super hit, 100 days for sure, etc... How many of us here were interested to find out if NEPV broke the record in sales and sold for high price etc... As if, only that will justify the quality of the music. This notion of huge hit = great film/music is just plain absurd but we all inexplicably get caught up in that notion.
Nowadays I'm trying to harmonize this negative feeling with a counter view... that ppl just care for a filmmaker/producer/musician to succeed and want to help them! But to only work for a Hit or to work on a film or music with a sole notion of making it a hit is bit offensive to the craft you practice. Being a filmmaker and speaking from personal experience, I can say this, whenever I tried to write for market, it sucked or if it was good, it still missed something. Whenever I get angry at something, get bothered by something, or love something deeply, and then tried to expressed it in film, there was always this unexplainable "x" factor that moved ppl and me, more than I can explain.
It is worth repeating that for Raja, all things begin with story, characters, emotions and ideas. Rest is out of his hand and he cannot control it. He has worked long enough to know, he should not care about the rewards. He has gained this incredible ability to compartmentalize creation of songs and the success that it brings. He does not let lack of success affect his creativity and his process of creation. This is just so hard for any artist, at any level to do. If I'm allowed to go into superlatives, he is not just Isaignani but we could also call him Isaiyogi. Isai is his karma. Now, coming to market? What market??? ;)
Senthilv.com,
Being a raja fan it must have been really very easy for you to oversee things, so just sharing a counter view to your points....
Self-depreciating????? wow... are we so blindfolded or born just yesterday? You may want to note his hand gesture when saying "will there be a screen without cinema?" - and then he points to himself saying "music(he) is not what you think, its something that can't be marketed...". I can clearly see his head weighing zillion...gazillion tons. Your posts seems to ignore it. Perfectly understandable when you love the person. I can't say that I love the person as much as I love his music. He trys to be modest yet bearing very heavy weight on his shoulders - comes off inadvertently in every such outings from none other than the man himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by senthilv.com
he is a great artist alright, but What makes you think his talent is wasted? Whatever popularity he's got is what he would've got and deservedly so. Let's not blame the audience for nauseating - his music is spontaneous and such distractions might not intervene. If Raja wants to make music for the sake of just music, there are countless other avenues. NEPV is a movie - involves teamwork. Without GVM, it wouldn't have happened. Let's not kid ourselves here - you being a filmmaker, would you not want your music to be commercially hit so you can be profitable? If a core member of a team doesn't care about profitability and operate in a mind of his/her own, you would arrange him/her a royal departure. Raja music is loved by the masses and therefore roped in by the makers for profits. NEPV isn't a art but a commercial film - make no mistake about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by senthilv.com
Karma? what karma?Quote:
Originally Posted by senthilv.com
From what you know about Raja so far, can you write few lines about his; belief, outlook, philosophy etc in music as a art form?. You may say why should I care. But without knowing what you know, there is no point answering you. It will lead to no where.Quote:
Originally Posted by brigs
layman10,Quote:
Originally Posted by layman10
Can you enlighten us by writing few lines? That would also help me understand how deeper you are into him and whether counter viewpoints will actually be heard or not.
Thanks,
[QUOTE=brigs;978684]Senthilv.com,
he is a great artist alright, but What makes you think his talent is wasted? Whatever popularity he's got is what he would've got and deservedly so. Let's not blame the audience for nauseating - his music is spontaneous and such distractions might not intervene. If Raja wants to make music for the sake of just music, there are countless other avenues. NEPV is a movie - involves teamwork. Without GVM, it wouldn't have happened. Let's not kid ourselves here - you being a filmmaker, would you not want your music to be commercially hit so you can be profitable? If a core member of a team doesn't care about profitability and operate in a mind of his/her own, you would arrange him/her a royal departure. Raja music is loved by the masses and therefore roped in by the makers for profits. NEPV isn't a art but a commercial film - make no mistake about it.
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Oh My..Another Raja Bashing
Ok so What are other avenues available for Raja. His how to name it is zillion times better than NEPV but can we compare the sales of both albums.
Our guys dont even understand what Orchestral music is and Raja has to beg for not whistling when music is played.
If this is the scenario now what would have been scenario in 70s, 80s, 90s. Most people use to hear music only in tea shops.
How could he done experimental stuff and taken it to the general audience.
Cinema has carried Raja's songs to general public. Raja has understood that and struck to cinmea. And true to his profession he has not just concentrated on songs but given cinema life with his background score. Atleast South India has completely enjoyed Raja due to cinema. If he had just followed expriemental stuff his reach would have been very limited.
Yes without GVM it would not have happened. Without Sony music it would not happened. Without Raja's car driver it would not have happened.
Raja's music has been as good if not better in Thandavakone, Azhagarsamiyin Kudhirai, Dhoni, Rama Rajyam in the recent past and just because GVM's movie is of Pop culture everybody have opened their ears and say credit to GVM..Its funny really.
Raja would do it for GVM, MVG, VGM or any goddamn director. Just that GVM is able to market songs better.
I donno why people are obssessed with team work, Modesty, humility, humbleness. Boring really.I adore raja for speaking his mind. Not trying to hide himself from stupid humility. Its a joy that he is opening up more these days . He has to speak more, write more and come out more. To hell with people who want otherwise.
And for what he has done for us he can talk anything he wants.
I welcome ur counter view.
Could be. I don't think I'm blind and I don't idolize him. If you have a point, put it forward, we can discuss. I prefer you not make judgements on who I am and what my feelings are towards him.Quote:
Originally Posted by brigs
Already explained my view, he is not talking about himself but about music (not even his music). He is not equating music with himself. Look at the overall point he is making...He doesn't know music, which is self-depreciating anyway you look at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by brigs
He did try all possible avenues. Nothing But Wind, How to Name it, The unreleased Symphony, Thiruvasagam. It is hard to argue the level of seriousness, scope, depth and artistic level of these works. Who knows what was in store in the unreleased symphony? What other kind of works would we have seen if he had opportunity other than routine film music? Also these were his own initiatives, few musicians in India attempted such endeavors.Quote:
Originally Posted by brigs
Exactly my point. Although he singlehandedly made ppl star, made a film box office success and make us go back to unknown films, watch songs with atrocious picturization etc... It requires a good team or someone with a vision to get good work out of him because they have come with him asking something different. Not the same old stuff. The important point is, his music is loved by the masses, not because they are commercial. Masses are not thinking about making his song hit, they love his music because it is great! By product of that is, you get a hit. But producers are not worried about making great music, they want to make a hit. Don't you see the irony?Quote:
Originally Posted by brigs
Also NEPV music is pretty close to an artful music we will get in an Indian film score!
No. Commercial success is not the only criteria. I have rejected commercial stories/offers to pursue a film story I deeply care. Luckily, I have that choice Raja doesn't. He can pick and choose films but cannot initiate the vision of a film. He has to work within the vision (if at all there is one) that is offered to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by brigs
it is a misunderstanding to say he doesn't care about profits and hits. His view is music cannot be sold. Not that, it shouldn't make profit. When our elders wish us, they say, live 100 years with all the happiness, love, prosperity, family life and peace. They don't just say live 100 years. When someone says his music will be hit. It will make super sales like NEPV, without mentioning it's artistic merit, they are wishing you just 100 years. It is superficial, short sighted and exploitative in Raja's case. Raja took the mic to set it straight. His view is counter-view to start with. He didn't interject and give an unnecessary speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by brigs
Thanks,
Senthil
Atleast with Raja, let us be true and real fans of his art only. No need to do character analysis and declare he is white or black.Quote:
Originally Posted by rajaramsgi
And we are not ready to see the grey areas too! See rajaramsgi, you feel tired of this kind of talks by raja but there are many speeches where he praises and recognizes younger talents, which you could have easily missed too. So better give no more attention to these things
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Screw teamwork / collaboration. Strokes of genius / innovations have never (or rarely) been done through collaboration. Be it Thirukural or Relativity Theory or Four Seasons or Sri Thiyagarajar and many more .....
Teamwork / collaboration in art is for wussies.
what Raja sir saying is "veenaiyin narambil isai varuma'? meetuvathu yaro..
he is just an interface and music flows through himm.. thats all he says.. there is no head wighing here..
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Kanann
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தேவனின் கோயில் மூடிய நேரம், நான் என்ன கேட்பேன் தெய்வமே’. அவர் பாட ஆரம்பித்த அந்த நொடியில் என் மனம் கலங்க ஆரம்பித்தது. ஆனால் பாட்டு போகப் போக டீச்சரின் கூச்சம் மறைந்து அந்தப் பாடலுக்குள் மூழ்கிக்கொண்டிருந்தார். முகத்தில் அத்தனை துலக்கம். . ‘நானொரு சோக சுமைதாங்கி’ என்று சரணத்தைத் தொடங்கும் போது குரலில் அத்தனை உருக்கம். தலையைக் குனிந்தவாறே பாடியபடி ’மறந்தாதால்தானே நிம் . . . .மதி’ என்று முடித்துவிட்டு, வலிய வரவழைத்த சிரிப்புடன் நிமிர்ந்தார்
Passing judgments on you was not my intention, i don't want to side track our views by dwelling too much into your wrongful inference.Quote:
Originally Posted by senthilv.com
Many seem to nod their heads in coherence, clap, whistle, or whatever when he says he doesn't know music. All the notes that he writes, what is it then? Divine intervention anybody, any takers? This isn't self-depreciating. It's called self-boasting, imho. The breathing analogy that IR used in the video posted is ample example. I ain't deluded.
I disagree with many of your views and don't have the time to engage further.
Classic cop out. The last time I will ever engage you.Quote:
Originally Posted by brigs
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Originally Posted by K
If anyone asks me "What is the most special song out of the 5000+ songs of IR ?" , I would say "Devanin koilil.."
Yes..the most special because of the capacity of this song to grind your heart...Kudos also to director Kumar, actress Pallavi (the director is her husband I think ) etc.
What a song !!!